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Unusual stirring of the Holy Spirit
4 weeks ago · 1 comment
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Unusual stirring of the Holy Spirit
let's take a deep breath and breathe!
You just wrote this:
I watched this happen with Jimmy Swaggart and more recently with Ted Haggard. People love to find fault and mock and say, "I told you so."
Now I know I am not the brightest bulb in the room but what was that but what you are right now doing to these brothers? You are finding fault with them.
This just does not seem to be the Wisdom from above:
Jas 3:17 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere.
Jas 3:18 And a harvest of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.
Here, let's touch this and do it so that we too can have follow our work in Christ "the God of Peace":::>
Heb 12:15 See to it that no one fails to obtain the grace of God; that no "root of bitterness" springs up and causes trouble, and by it many become defiled;
Ok, let's see to it that this brother and sister, Todd and Shannon do not, do not, do not fail to obtain the grace of God!
I have been in ministry over 30 and travelled to many countries, 11 war zones, seen it all, experienced a lot and am still flaming for His Glory.
I recommend you heed Paul the Apostle and find a place with him here:
Php 4:9 What you have learned and received and heard and seen in me--practice these things, and the God of peace will be with you.
Here's my prayer:
LORD JESUS, LET YOUR WILL BE DONE AND YOUR BLESSED KINGDOM OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, PEACE AND JOY COME IN THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST
TAKE THIS LEMON SITUATION AND SWEETEN IT SO THAT WE CAN ALL BE REFRESHED WITH HOLY GHOST FILLED LEMONADE.
BRING PEACE TO TODD.
BRING PEACE TO SHANNON.
BRING PEACE TO THE HEARTS OF ALL WHO ARE PERSONALLY GOING TO BE CHANGED BY THE OUTCOME OF THESE EVENTS.
WE HOLD TO THE PROMISES OF SCRIPTURE, PROMISES YOU HAVE FILLED OUR OWN HEARTS WITH BELIEVING.
NOW GOD OF HOPE, FILL US WITH JOY AND PEACE IN BELIEVING THAT WE WILL NOW RISE UP AND ABOUND IN HOPE IN THIS SITUATION IN THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST.
AMEN
Let's just pray for Todd. He is like any other brother in church that we must pray for and support so that God will restore what has been broken and carry him and his wife.
i dont know if you believe in the spiritual realm and supernatural christianity, but i do, and witchcraft is real, and can do as much as make a human being fall.
dont bother replying
When you think of King David, usually the first thing you think of is, he had a man killed so he could take his wife, instead of all the wonderful things he did. Todd is after all flesh and blood. satan was on the attack before Todd ever stepped into the revival. I'm not saying he doesn't have a responsibility, but, satan has had 1000's of years of practice and he knows all the weak spots. He definitely went in for the kill.
I actually find it much more troubling how some Christians have handled the whole revival. From the very start right up until now. The bashing has been unrelenting, self righteous, I told you so, look at all his flaws, Saducess and Pharisees. Little to no love and more gossipy than anything else. So many used the excuse that they have to protect all of the ones who might fall prey to this unholy false revival. I can hear the gloating over all of this by some who slammed it from the start. And the gossip and rumors from other Christians about what Todd was doing, have already started.
We don't need to know all the details and we certainly don't need gossip coming from other Christians, that's disgusting. All we need to know is, he has a problem, he needs to repent, he needs counseling and he needs our prayers. God will take care of the rest.
This is solely because of the anointing I saw on Todd Bentley.
This doesn't mean I accepted everything without question. Discernment is a moment to moment reality. The blessing and strength I received from my week at Lakeland is immeasurable, but even within that reality, there was and still is a constant discerning, balancing and weighing going on.
My overwhelming response to the news of Todd's separation is one of righteous anger. Given the size of the move of God initiated through Todd and his becoming such an incredibly visible target for the world and the devil and vulnerability to his own flesh, where are the intercessors ensuring his spiritual safety? The physical is only a reflection of the spiritual.
I have never seen anyone, who has modelled so powerfully, the contending for God's Kingdom. This has been Todd's gift to the Christian community. This also makes him an exceptional target, because when individual Christians begin to realise that they too can truly contend in the power of God - not because of Todd Bentley, he simply modelled it - the devil is on the run.
Pray for the Holy Spirit to fill the holes shot in Todd, through his inability to recognise/for ignoring his own needs and also that the Holy Spirit would remove all guilt from his wife for having natural, human needs.
Intercessors, please say a prayer for Todd and his wife, even if it only a small one. He needs this support.
We should be shocked and troubled that there aren't more angelic encounters. What's keeping us in this nation numb to the supernatural while other nations are exploding with moves of God and powerful visitations?
I have a great scripture for you: Zechariah5:9 THey I looked up and there before me were two women, with the wind in their wings? They had wings like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between heaven and earth.
If that isn't a scripture that describes female angels, I don't know what is.
I've prayed that the truth would come out, and I think we've yet to hear the whole story. It saddens me. I'm not gloating. But pray? Yes, definitely pray!!
Spiritual things must be discerned spiritually. There will be many things that will happen in a move of God that will look and sound very unconventional- but will be very much God.
How is it that one Christian can watch a revival service and say, "Look at how crazy and strange and emotionally driven it is- it's inappropriate!"... and another Christian will watch the very same event and tremble under the presence of God?
To shut down or discredit a move of God because it looks or sounds contrary to what we are comfortable with will cause us to miss a large portion of what God will be doing in the end-times. The great revivals that are coming will give great opportunity for offense, for raised eyebrows, for uncomfortability, etc.
Of course, if something is strange and weird it isn't automatically God. But, we must discern it spiritually. Remember, in Acts 2 many marveled and many mocked at the exact same outpouring.
Now, did Todd's ministry result in fruit. Absolutely. Without any question whatsoever. I know a person myself who had two encounters in heaven and was healed while on stage in Lakeland of a life threatening disease.
Anyway, there's my thoughts!
Mat 5:28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
Now that we have that squared away. I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR WORDS.
The following is cut directly from Fresh Fire Ministries web site.
We wish to acknowledge, however, that since our last statement from the Fresh Fire Board of Directors, we have discovered new information revealing that Todd Bentley has entered into an unhealthy relationship on an emotional level with a female member of his staff.
Lets really be careful on how we attack with words like adultrer.
There is a unhealthy relationship on an emotional level with a female.
Judge not lest YOU be judged with the same measure....
I am a broken person seeking the love of God and a deep relationship with Jesus. I am happy to be along side of any others who are broken and struggling through this life.
We don't need another revival. We need a reformation.
"To turn the hearts of the fathers to the hearts of the children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers. " Malachi 4:6
The first thing that always runs through my mind when I hear about any high profile, great minister, evangelist, healer, worship leader, is...
I wonder what his wife and children would say about him.
I don't care what his congregation says about him!
I don't care what the critics say about him!
I don't even care what other leaders may say about him!
I want to know one thing.
Does his wife admire him and would his children say "My daddy is the greatest man in the world!"
God is reforming the church, and he loves us too much to not take us through this process of purification and restoration. I believe God is bringing true revival to the church, but I also believe before this will come to fruition, he must first bring reformation. This coming move of God won't be compared to any of the past moves. It is something on a scale we have never seen and may never see again. I believe the coming move of God is not just another revival but a preparation for the return of the Lord Jesus Christ.
With that said, I don't think God is going to let us as leaders get away with compromise in our lives anymore. He is raising up true fathers for a great harvest of souls and to be conduits of revival in this generation and the generations to come.
And if it's not working at home...it's not working in the pulpit or on the stage. In my opinion the mark of a true Man of God is not healings, not miracles, not sign and wonders, it is this: Receiving God's Agape Love, and giving it away - first to his own family, and then to his congregation and the body of Christ. When I take a look at the leaders in my life that I truly respect and want to follow and emulate, it is these qualities that always shine forth. Not their ministry or their gifts, but the love that they have for the Lord and their families.
Great Fathers!
I think the best position to take in the Todd Bentley situation is to prayer for restoration and healing in his relationship with his wife and children, not label him "this" or "that" or point the finger. It's a trap easily to fall into when you're in the spotlight, over emphasizing on ministry and the enemy sneaks right in the back door and steals from the most important relationships of all - Intimacy with God and with the wife and children.
God is raising up fathers to be great leaders and shepherds for the great harvest to come. People that can be trusted with a great flock to lead them in the right direction. Who operate out of a sacrificial love like Jesus Christ himself. Who only do what they see the father do. And signs and wonders will follow them. And so will an army of young people, steadfast for the things on God's heart. It's not just another move of God, it is a reformation of the whole way we operate as "THE Church." It's a reformation of the heart, that will erupt into a massive movement, and it's already begun.
God is on the move, and he is reforming the church, in preparation for great revival.
Since the beginning of the Lakeland Revival, Christians who should know better, have spoken against this move of God, firstly because they fear what they have not experienced, others out of jealousy, others out of pride as they cannot believe God could use a man with Todds background and appearance. Even during this time of difficulty for Todd the judgemental critical Christians show their true colours. In all things, WHERE IS THE LOVE OF CHRIST IN THE CHURCH? Maybe God has allowed this to happen (even though we all know it is the work of the devil amidst revival), to sift the Church, from those who trully have the wisdom of God to know the current position is not good, but whose hearts are broken and grieve for Todd and his Wife and family. I for one know the Holy Spirit cries for him - have any of you read the story of the Prodical son, who when he came to his senses, repented and was fully restored - is this not the kind of Church we should be - united we stand, divided we fall. Soften our hearts Lord, so that those who have fallen can be restored.
Sue
Nottingham
United Kingdom
Check out Bentley's Japanese Kanji tattoo. The symbols translate thus: 'Guardian', 'big', 'huge', 'keeper of Hell'. Further, on his raised arm Bentley has a tattoo of Christ's dead face with a subliminal monkey etched into his beard. Above the tip of the beard, is a subliminal Oni which, for the uninitiated, is a Buddhist guardian devil of Hell. Hmmm, seems we have something of a theme happening here. Well, he must have had the tattoos before he was converted right? Nope!... Most of Bentley's squalid body art, including the ones mentioned, were etched 8 years after he claimed he was saved and while he was a 'minister'. The question then begs to be asked, "Why would a believer in Christ etch symbols into their flesh which clearly convey demonic messages?" Moreover, what does the Word of God have to say on the subject of tattoos and body piercings? See Lev. 19:28.
Depicted in this photo is the warrior Apollo, whose spiritual and symbolic significance is identical with that of the sun in mythology and alchemy. The spreading golden hairs which crown the god's head have the same meaning as the bow and arrow (sun rays). The Greek name for Apollo is Apollon, which means 'from the depths of the lion". Apollon was the great Olympian god of prophecy, oracles, healing, and the aversion of plague and general harm. He is also call Apollyon in scripture, or Hebrew "Abaddon" (Rev. 9:11) also identified as the king of the demonic "locusts" described in Rev. 9:3-10. The locust was a delivery method of this god, who poisoned his victims. Roman emperor Domitian, liked to be regarded as Apollo incarnate. Again we ask why would Bentley choose to embellish such a demonic entity on his body?
Image courtesy Eternal Path
Ok, so Todd has violated some pretty basic commands and the Father does not honour disobedience which should give a clue as to his so-called anointing
GO TO http://www.eternalpath.com/lakeland.html TO SEE PICTURES
Remember the bible says that in the end times there will be false signs and wonders. Ask for wisdom and God's truth and for the gift of discerning of spirits.
You are handling Lev 19:28 incorrectly. You must embrace grace my friend!! Love!
I am glad I am not the only one who objects to writing Todd Bentley's ministering off as demonic. Falling into sin does not make one a false prophet. It makes one a sinner, in need of repentance and restoration.